Curse

Rhedd · Feb 09, 2008, 12:53 AM // 00:53

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Why don't people ever gracefully understand that charity deserves no reciprocity.

It's the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing definition of charity.

Doesn't ever deserve a kick in the teeth, either, though, does it?

I was seriously torn between playing GW during the event, or downloading a brand new copy of Sins of a Solar Empire, and playing that instead.

Shooting spaceships or a kick in the teeth... hmm... I hear outer space a-callin' me. Luckily for Anet, I'm not paying a monthly fee, so they don't care.

Snow Bunny · Feb 09, 2008, 12:53 AM // 00:53

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Originally Posted by Gli

And why can't you understand that regardless of whatever useless platitudes you have to offer, it's still not a good idea to go out of your way to screw over charitable people.

It wasn't designed to screw them over. If you think about it economically, pre-event pigs were primarily in the hands of players with low amounts of gold, seeing as their low stashes of gold afforded them only the most worthless pets.

Now with most pigs ranging between 10-100k, those players have more breathing space, and the players who gave them away obviously had no investment in them financially from the start.

Try to think in more than one dimension, alright?

Savio · Feb 09, 2008, 12:53 AM // 00:53

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Originally Posted by Gli

And why can't you (gracefully or otherwise, I don't care) understand that regardless of whatever useless platitudes you have to offer, it's still not a good idea to go out of your way to screw over charitable people?

How exactly are they screwed over?

electrofish · Feb 09, 2008, 12:54 AM // 00:54

I'm sooooo glad that I got myself into a situation where i'm caring less and less about GW.

However, this idea of celestial pig is the worst yet... I completely agree that Anet is smacking the charitable people in the face with a sledge hammer with this.

Gli · Feb 09, 2008, 01:02 AM // 01:02

Snow Bunny, Savio, being disingenuous isn't cool or sophisticated.

Snow Bunny · Feb 09, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03

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Originally Posted by Gli

Snow Bunny, Savio, being disingenuous isn't cool or sophisticated.

Being unable to intelligently explain your lack of charitable spirit isn't cool either

Gli · Feb 09, 2008, 01:05 AM // 01:05

I'm able to explain myself, I just don't think it's worth my time to elaborate on what is obvious to most people.

Gun Pierson · Feb 09, 2008, 01:07 AM // 01:07

Maybe making the mini pig common white a while ago instead of leaving it gold would have been a better solution, while abandoning the idea of celestial minis. But it's too late now anyway.

If you can, try to let this all go and enjoy the game. But it's good ofcourse that people voice their opinion.

Savio · Feb 09, 2008, 01:13 AM // 01:13

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Originally Posted by Gli

I'm able to explain myself, I just don't think it's worth my time to elaborate on what is obvious to most people.

It's not obvious at all, since I'm not assuming the same things you are.

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

Maybe making the mini pig common white a while ago instead of leaving it gold would have been a better solution, while abandoning the idea of celestial minis.

Does it really matter what color text the minipig has?

Rhedd · Feb 09, 2008, 01:14 AM // 01:14

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Being unable to intelligently explain your lack of charitable spirit isn't cool either

Allow me.

I don't think anyone here regrets being charitable. I know if I had it to do over again, I would still give all of those piggies to my friends (and strangers), and I've never once considered asking for them back, even though I have a couple of friends that have one that don't even play GW anymore.

Being nice is its own reward, and I don't think anyone here fails to realize that.

Sometimes, in real life, a person does something nice, and it turns out to make them suffer a bit, in the long run. We laugh, say, "oh well, that's life", and move on.

GW is NOT real life. "Life" is not punishing good deeds, here. It's an actual living human being with authority, even god-like powers, to effect the world and change it, that has DECIDED to punish good deeds. It was a conscious choice.

Did Anet not know what's been going on for a year? They have absolutely no right not to, and therefore I have to assume they did, and wanted to reward people that hoarded pigs instead of giving them away, or went out and bought them for outrageous prices, or sold them for outrageous prices.

Conversely, they must've wanted to try, at least, to make people that gave them away feel like crap.

It's not your place to tell those people whether to rise above this slap in the face, or feel, rightfully, like crap (just like Anet obviously wanted).

Gun Pierson · Feb 09, 2008, 01:16 AM // 01:16

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Originally Posted by Savio

Does it really matter what color text the minipig has?

Not to me, but gold seems to represent 'rare'. Labeling it common + white would have been another way to deal with the overpopulation maybe. Just like a troll or a devourer etc.

Zesbeer · Feb 09, 2008, 01:18 AM // 01:18

i for one think that they should just change it to if you got a pig you can get a new one. i don't think its fair that they are pinalizeing those of us who where charitable or didnt farm the mini pets.

Numa Pompilius · Feb 09, 2008, 01:23 AM // 01:23

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"The Miniature Pigs: There are just too many of these "out there" in the overall scope of things. Too many people got them in too many final events last year and they have (or at least had) a rather pitiable value."

So it was all about ANet price-fixing the minipig. I wonder at whos request.
And I wonder how many pigs that someone bought the weeks before this event.

Savio · Feb 09, 2008, 01:24 AM // 01:24

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Originally Posted by Rhedd

Being nice is its own reward, and I don't think anyone here fails to realize that.

If people realized that, then why would they feel bad about not being able to acquire something?

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

Labeling it common + white would have been another way to deal with the overpopulation maybe.

There still would have been a million minipigs everywhere. Nothing would have changed.

Hyper Cutter · Feb 09, 2008, 01:29 AM // 01:29

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The Miniature Pigs: There are just too many of these "out there" in the overall scope of things. Too many people got them in too many final events last year and they have (or at least had) a rather pitiable value

So I guess that means they're going to do something like that with all those worthless 1st year minis (troll, devourer, wallow, etc)? After all, they're worth little more than the pigs were

Also, this whole fiasco could have been avoided if they'd just done the celestial pig thing LAST year, shortly after the festival...

Snow Bunny · Feb 09, 2008, 01:30 AM // 01:30

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Originally Posted by Savio

If people realized that, then why would they feel bad about not being able to acquire something?

Precisely

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Darkveil · Feb 09, 2008, 01:32 AM // 01:32

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Originally Posted by Firebaall

For interest's sake, I want to know what the sheer monetary return would be for a player to complete all 3 chapters, and GW:EN. Without buying any "rewards", or prestige items...I'll bet there's alot of scratch earned.

Even more than what a single Celestial Pig would sell for, I would wager.

If you dont spend anything on expensive dyes, runes, elite armor or rare weaponry above 500g, I'd say somewhere around 200-350 plats...easily!
It includes picking up and selling every drop you get and completeing all side quests, cashing in the rewards. Then there may be a positive gold adjustment in chance of finding and selling a true rare item or two on the way.

By the time I reached Granite citadel in Tyria first time around I had about the exact worth of gold - by just playing the game - for the elite armor and two black dyes

Now me and my two kinds of pigs are going oUT for a walk

Cheerio!

Numa Pompilius · Feb 09, 2008, 01:33 AM // 01:33

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Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter

So I guess that means they're going to do something like that with all those worthless 1st year minis (troll, devourer, wallow, etc)? After all, they're worth little more than the pigs were

Doubt it. The "someone" who got ANet to do this isn't likely to be able to hoard as many of those as it was possible to hoard of the minipig. "Someone" made millions on this, I have no doubt about that whatsoever.

Rhedd · Feb 09, 2008, 01:38 AM // 01:38

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Originally Posted by Savio

If people realized that, then why would they feel bad about not being able to acquire something?

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Precisely

God, you people will. Not. Read.

There were other sentences in my post, you know.

I give up.

Gli · Feb 09, 2008, 01:42 AM // 01:42

I don't blame you, I gave up a few posts ago.

I'm off, going to beat up some Red Cross volunteers. They've had it coming for a long time.